Return-Path: Received: from hermes31.mail.cornell.edu (hermes31.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.56]) by lnscu5.lns.cornell.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m24KoWih031285 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from poppy.mail.cornell.edu (poppy.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.48]) by hermes31.mail.cornell.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m24KoWSs020440 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by poppy.mail.cornell.edu (8.13.6/8.12.6) id m24KoYGe012518 for palmer@mail.lns.cornell.edu; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam3.slac.stanford.edu (poppy_tc [10.236.56.9]) by poppy.mail.cornell.edu (8.13.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id m24Knv5w012028 for map36@cornell.edu; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam3.slac.stanford.edu (nospam3.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.83]) by 132.236.56.9; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:50:32 -0500 Received: from mailgate04.slac.stanford.edu (mailgate04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.85]) by nospam3.slac.stanford.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m24KoRIn016835; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from burkhart@slac.stanford.edu) Received: from exch-mail1.win.slac.stanford.edu (exch-mail1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.19.151]) by mailgate04.slac.stanford.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m24Ko8QE029094; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from burkhart@slac.stanford.edu) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C87E39.5446C97B" Subject: RE: This Week's Damping Ring Discussions at the Sendai GDE Meeting Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:50:07 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47CD13B2.9000609@cornell.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: This Week's Damping Ring Discussions at the Sendai GDE Meeting Thread-Index: Ach92hHMaZQrEaKqTmypAc5Qnwok3gAW+3eA References: <47CB6B12.5040200@cornell.edu> <47CD13B2.9000609@cornell.edu> X-PH: V4.1@poppy From: "Burkhart, Craig P" To: "Mark A. Palmer" , X-Original-IP: 134.79.18.83 X-Original-Hostname: nospam3.slac.stanford.edu X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2008.3.4.123930 X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: poppy X-DCC-CULNS-Metrics: lnscu5.lns.cornell.edu 9999; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C87E39.5446C97B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, =20 Unfortunately, I had to leave yesterday's discussion just as you started = into the evaluation table. My interpretation of the Table and the = comments that have been subsequently exchanged is that all four = approaches are technically sound, the DCO is marginally superior to = either FODO and the OSC8 is marginally inferior. =20 That said, cost should then become a primary concern. There are clearly = cost components in the evaluation, but since the technically merits of = the competing systems are similar shouldn't a greater weighting be = placed on cost? =20 If you conclude that the present evaluation places sufficient weight on = cost, I certainly support your conclusions. =20 =20 Craig ________________________________ From: owner-ilcdr@lbl.gov [mailto:owner-ilcdr@lbl.gov] On Behalf Of Mark = A. Palmer Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:18 AM To: ilcdr@lbl.gov Subject: Re: This Week's Damping Ring Discussions at the Sendai GDE = Meeting Hi All, The attached note summarizes today's lattice evaluation session at the = Sendai meeting. The relative ratings among the lattices is quite close = demonstrating the amount of effort that went into each design. At this = point, we would appreciate comments from all interested parties on the = ratings that were applied. Please use "Reply All" when responding to = ensure that everyone is able to view your responses. Also, please = submit your comments within the next 24 hours since this evaluation = needs to be presented to the Project Managers before the end of the = workshop on Thursday. At this point we would like to thank all of those who participated in = the lattice design effort for all of their hard work. Thanks, Mark, Andy and Junji Mark A. Palmer wrote:=20 Hi All, =09 The damping rings sessions at this week's Sendai GDE meeting will all = be accessible via WebEx. The agenda is available from the TILC08 = web-site (follow the=20 Program link from the homepage): =20 =09 http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/TILC08/index.html =09 In particular, we would like to point out that Tuesday morning's = discussion will focus on the selection of a baseline DR lattice. = Everyone is strongly encouraged to participate in this discussion. =20 =09 WebEx connection details for Tuesday and Wednesday in Sendai will be = forwarded in two subsequent emails. =09 Please join us, Mark Palmer & Junji Urakawa =09 Tuesday DR Sessions: =09 Junji Urakawa invites you to attend this online meeting.=20 =09 Topic: Sendai-GDE-DR=20 Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2008=20 Time: 8:00 am, Japan Standard Time (GMT +09:00, Tokyo )=20 Meeting Number: 592 633 345=20 Meeting Password: ilcdr=20 =09 Please click the link below to see more information, or to join the = meeting.=20 =09 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the online meeting=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to = https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/j.php?ED=3D103458137&UID=3D1013632142=20 2. Enter your name and email address.=20 3. Enter the meeting password: ilcdr=20 4. Click "Join".=20 =09 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the teleconference only=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 Provide your phone number when you join the meeting to receive a call = back. Or, call the number below and enter the meeting number.=20 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 866-469-3239=20 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 650-429-3300=20 Global call-in numbers: = https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D103458= 137&tollFree=3D1=20 Toll-free dialing restrictions: = http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf=20 =09 -------------------------------------------------------=20 For assistance=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/mc=20 2. Click "Assistance".=20 3. Click "Support".=20 =09 You can contact me at:=20 junji.urakawa@kek.jp=20 =09 =09 To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft = Outlook), click this link:=20 = https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/j.php?ED=3D103458137&UID=3D1013632142&ICS=3DM= I&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3D5grgexGrFaE7Kv/Xcn1I5ErtS-DrBzzsYXKuiHYv13U= =3D=20 =09 The host requests that you check for compatibility of rich media = players for Universal Communications Format (UCF) before you join the = session. UCF allows you to view multimedia during the session. To check = now, click the following link:=20 https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/systemdiagnosis.php=20 =09 Sign up for a free trial of WebEx=20 http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial=20 =09 http://www.webex.com=20 We've got to start meeting like this(TM)=20 =09 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows = audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during = the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically = consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, do = not join the session.=20 =09 _____________________________________________________________________ Mark A. Palmer LEPP Accelerator Group E-Mail: map36@cornell.edu US Mail: 222 R.R. Wilson Laboratory Voice : (607)255-4240 Cornell University FAX : (607)255-8062 Ithaca, NY 14853-8001=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =20 --=20 _____________________________________________________________________ Mark A. Palmer LEPP Accelerator Group E-Mail: map36@cornell.edu US Mail: 222 R.R. Wilson Laboratory Voice : (607)255-4240 Cornell University FAX : (607)255-8062 Ithaca, NY 14853-8001=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C87E39.5446C97B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
 
Unfortunately, I had to leave yesterday's = discussion just=20 as you started into the evaluation table.  My interpretation of the = Table=20 and the comments that have been subsequently exchanged is that all four=20 approaches are technically sound, the DCO is marginally superior to = either FODO=20 and the OSC8 is marginally inferior.
 
That said, cost should then become a primary = concern. =20 There are clearly cost components in the evaluation, but since the = technically=20 merits of the competing systems are similar shouldn't a greater = weighting be=20 placed on cost?
 
If you conclude that the present evaluation = places=20 sufficient weight on cost, I certainly support your=20 conclusions.
 
 
Craig

From: owner-ilcdr@lbl.gov=20 [mailto:owner-ilcdr@lbl.gov] On Behalf Of Mark A. = Palmer
Sent:=20 Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:18 AM
To: = ilcdr@lbl.gov
Subject:=20 Re: This Week's Damping Ring Discussions at the Sendai GDE=20 Meeting

Hi All,

The attached note summarizes today's lattice=20 evaluation session at the Sendai meeting.  The relative ratings = among the=20 lattices is quite close demonstrating the amount of effort that went = into each=20 design.  At this point, we would appreciate comments from all = interested=20 parties on the ratings that were applied.  Please use "Reply All" = when=20 responding to ensure that everyone is able to view your responses.  = Also,=20 please submit your comments within the next 24 hours since this = evaluation needs=20 to be presented to the Project Managers before the end of the workshop = on=20 Thursday.

At this point we would like to thank all of those who=20 participated in the lattice design effort for all of their hard=20 work.

Thanks,
Mark, Andy and Junji

Mark A. Palmer = wrote:=20
Hi=20 All,

The damping rings sessions at this week's Sendai GDE = meeting will=20 all be accessible via WebEx.  The agenda is available from the = TILC08=20 web-site (follow the
Program link from the homepage):  =

http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/TILC08/index.html

In=20 particular, we would like to point out that Tuesday morning's = discussion will=20 focus on the selection of a baseline DR lattice.  Everyone is = strongly=20 encouraged to participate in this discussion. 

WebEx = connection=20 details for Tuesday and Wednesday in Sendai will be forwarded in two=20 subsequent emails.

Please join us,
Mark Palmer & Junji=20 Urakawa

Tuesday DR Sessions:
Junji Urakawa invites you to attend this online meeting.=20

Topic: Sendai-GDE-DR
Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 =
Time: 8:00=20 am, Japan Standard Time (GMT +09:00, Tokyo )
Meeting Number: 592 = 633 345=20
Meeting Password: ilcdr

Please click the link below to = see more=20 information, or to join the meeting.=20

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To join=20 the online meeting=20
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1. = Go to https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/j.php?ED=3D103458137= &UID=3D1013632142=20
2. Enter your name and email address.
3. Enter the meeting = password:=20 ilcdr
4. Click "Join".=20

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To join=20 the teleconference only=20
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Provide your=20 phone number when you join the meeting to receive a call back. Or, = call the=20 number below and enter the meeting number.
Call-in toll-free = number=20 (US/Canada): 866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): = 650-429-3300=20
Global call-in numbers: https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/globalcallin.php?ser= viceType=3DMC&ED=3D103458137&tollFree=3D1=20
Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.p= df=20

------------------------------------------------------- =
For=20 assistance =
-------------------------------------------------------=20
1. Go to https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/mc
2. = Click=20 "Assistance".
3. Click "Support".

You can contact me at: =
junji.urakawa@kek.jp


To add = this=20 meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), = click this=20 link:
https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/j.php?ED=3D103458137= &UID=3D1013632142&ICS=3DMI&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&S= HA2=3D5grgexGrFaE7Kv/Xcn1I5ErtS-DrBzzsYXKuiHYv13U=3D=20

The host requests that you check for compatibility of rich = media=20 players for Universal Communications Format (UCF) before you join = the=20 session. UCF allows you to view multimedia during the session. To = check now,=20 click the following link:
https://fnal.webex.com/fnal/systemdiagnosis.php<= /A>=20

Sign up for a free trial of WebEx
http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial =

http://www.webex.com
We've got to = start=20 meeting like this(TM)

IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service = includes=20 a feature that allows audio and any documents and other materials = exchanged=20 or viewed during the session to be recorded. By joining this = session, you=20 automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to = the=20 recording, do not join the session. 

_____________________________________________________________=
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Mark A. Palmer                    LEPP Accelerator Group
E-Mail: map36@cornell.edu         US Mail: 222 R.R. =
Wilson Laboratory
Voice : (607)255-4240                      Cornell University
FAX   : (607)255-8062                      Ithaca, NY  14853-8001=20







  

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Mark A. Palmer                    LEPP Accelerator Group
E-Mail: map36@cornell.edu         US Mail: =
222 R.R. Wilson Laboratory
Voice : (607)255-4240                      Cornell University
FAX   : (607)255-8062                      Ithaca, NY  14853-8001=20
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